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#176 User is offline   The Gimp

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Posted 13 February 2005 - 11:53 AM

Nevermind.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 11:55 AM

ChicoWalker, on Feb 13 2005, 09:50 AM, said:

blackjack
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Nice to hear people are still playing Black Jack.. :lol:

What dollar tables did you play? CT is usally a nightmare getting on a reasonable dollar table... Hence I've played a lot of $25.00 games..
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 11:56 AM

Feejis Lulu, on Feb 13 2005, 10:50 AM, said:

On the earlier weekend Pedro talk, I think it's necessary to point out that he was never actually "late" to camp with the Red Sox. Everyone else always arrived early, and the teams suggest players arrive before the mandatory reporting date.

Yes, it's a far cry from being 10 days early, but he still wasn't ever late - at least as far as I can recall.
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Apologist.

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Posted 13 February 2005 - 12:01 PM

I loved the fact that the Globe's comemorative section on the Pats today had exactly ZERO articles written by their head football writer Ron Borges.

Editor: "Ummm, Ron? This is supposed to be a feelgood section, I don't think your submission titled 101 Things Belichick lied about fits with the rest of the section."
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 12:10 PM

Moes Tavern, on Feb 13 2005, 11:51 AM, said:

That segment was one of the worst I've ever seen. I'm not going to pretend to speak for black people but I would suspect that if I was a black man and I turned on ESPN to see a white guy with "old school" under his picture and a screaming black man with "nu skool" under his picture I would be a little offended.
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It is easy to rip on SportsCenter nowadays, particularly for their style over substance M.O., but that segment was little more than a pair of yahoos who know nothing of what they speak fill air time.

If I'm Bob Ley, I would be embarassed to moderate such a round table as "Nu Skool-Old School"
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 12:11 PM

On another note, I REALLY like Leigh Montville's piece in the Globe today.

Why can't we get guys like that? :blink:
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 12:15 PM

LarryLegend, on Feb 13 2005, 11:10 AM, said:

It is easy to rip on SportsCenter nowadays, particularly for their style over substance M.O., but that segment was little more than a pair of yahoos who know nothing of what they speak fill air time.

If I'm Bob Ley, I would be embarassed to moderate such a round table as "Nu Skool-Old School"
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He actually looked embarassed moderating it. When they got into the Freddie Mitchell comments (about not getting a lot of opportunities because T.O. was in the game) I threw up and turned it off.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 12:18 PM

Get excited people, its Pro Bowl Sunday!!
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 12:48 PM

The Gimp, on Feb 13 2005, 11:56 AM, said:

Apologist.

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Pedro showed up later than everyone else to either draw attention to himself as "special" or to show managers who has the real power. Some people hate when some of us call him a diva. But that's exactly what he is. New strategy to draw attention to yourself > show up early. What a diva. He was loved around here because he could always back it up. If he doesn't back it up in NYC, he'll be just another athlete who wishes that he never left Boston.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 12:59 PM

Do the Patriots play at 4:00pm today because I just turned on Channel 4 and they're not on.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 01:05 PM

TikiAndTorch, on Feb 13 2005, 12:59 PM, said:

Do the Patriots play at 4:00pm today because I just turned on Channel 4 and they're not on.
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I've been fiddling around with it for half an hour.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 01:06 PM

Len, on Feb 13 2005, 11:48 AM, said:

Pedro showed up later than everyone else to either draw attention to himself as "special" or to show managers who has the real power.  Some people hate when some of us call him a diva.  But that's exactly what he is.  New strategy to draw attention to yourself > show up early.  What a diva.  He was loved around here because he could always back it up.  If he doesn't back it up in NYC, he'll be just another athlete who wishes that he never left Boston.
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Please refer to Pedro as the Dominican Diva, or Diva from a dirt poor country, but never just "Diva".

Thank You
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 01:12 PM

Moes Tavern, on Feb 13 2005, 01:06 PM, said:

Please refer to Pedro as the Dominican Diva, or Diva from a dirt poor country, but never just "Diva".

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Yours.

Dan Shaughnessy
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 01:16 PM

Tampa Bay Bucs: You want to cancel your season tickets? See you in court.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 01:53 PM

Duquesne +6 today for me.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 01:55 PM

bdd.com: Full of **** but making headlines

Thanks to tiki for pointing it out.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 02:22 PM

Mark, on Feb 13 2005, 05:55 PM, said:

bdd.com: Full of **** but making headlines

Thanks to tiki for pointing it out.
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I guess he wont be listing this one up there with the legendary "Varitek scoop". :lol:

You really miss the links when they're gone. The weekends are the only time I get to read them. :(
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 02:37 PM

I've defended him in the past. But the reference to Garciaparra being "named" in a tell all book about steroids is indefensible. The lack of an apology or an even a "sorry, we goofed" in a later update only made it worse. Ugh.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 03:09 PM

LarryLegend, on Feb 13 2005, 11:37 AM, said:

Effin' SportsCenter...

John Clayton had a "What if" piece on what would have happened had Mo Lewis not knocked out Brady in '01. A few of Clayton's revisionist thoughts.
1. 2001 Super Bowl Champion Oakland Raiders due to no "Tuck Rule"
2. Weis and Crennel would be star coordinators in Dallas with Parcells
3. Brady would be in 2004 = to Tim Rattay or Chris Redman
4. Belichick may have been fired in 2001
5. Replaced by Spurrier, Bill Callahan, or Jon Gruden
6. Parcells would be challenging Philly for the NFC Champ.
7. Dillon would be in Oakland this year
8. Gruden, w/SB ring, wouldn't have left Oakland and Philly would have won NFC Championship in 2002.
9. Philly would have been the dynasty right now (2 or 3 SBs for McNabb) instead of New England.
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I love this stupidity. Oakland would have probably never beaten both Pittsburgh and the Rams the way the Patriots did. BB would never have been fired in 2001, considering he certainly didn't have to win the Super Bowl to "save" his job. All indications are that a healthy Drew would have been replaced anyway - and sooner rather than later.

An incredible half-joking list of assumptions in which each one only becomes possible if the previous one happens. Sort of resembling the list of assumptions that starts with "I can't see anything on the surface of Venus" and ends with "dinosaurs must live there".

While Clayton is way out on that limb, he should do us a favor and saw himself off.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 03:12 PM

Saliva was hoping Nomar would be named as a user so he could throw more bllep at him. Had to beleive the Globe pays him.

Nickles took care of everyone today. made BB look cheap, Rob Konrad, etc. Why even write this piece of garbage,
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 03:44 PM

Felger's reporting credibility is dropping so fast his ears must be popping. I think it would be a worthy endeavor to look at the 01 Felger (pre-media whore) and contrast it with the 03-04 Felger. It's embarrassing how little he knows about the team on his "beat" now.

I think that, in these slow weeks, a very worthy effort would be to compile a compresensive list of Felger's big misses and post on the front page in comparison to his ubiquitous media committments.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 04:08 PM

TikiAndTorch, on Feb 13 2005, 12:16 PM, said:




Interesting considering most of the club seat holders of Pats commited to purchasing the seats fro 10 years as well. It's not an issue now, but at some point in the future if , and this a big IF, the team is less than competitive this could be an issue.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 04:23 PM

Mark, on Feb 13 2005, 01:55 PM, said:

bdd.com: Full of **** but making headlines

Thanks to tiki for pointing it out.
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His source was a close friend who had spoken to someone at Regan Books who had browsed through a copy of Canseco's book and noticed Garciaparra's name


:lol: :lol:

"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Nomar doing steroids at 31 Flavors last night." Run with it!
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 05:07 PM

This Chris Snow guy (is it a guy? :blink: ) looks pretty promising as the Globe's new baseball beat writer. If Solomon pans out on football the Globe could be well along the rebuilding trail.

I loved in Jackie Mac's Varitek piece how Tek goes out of his way to rip Buck and McCarver. :lol:
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 05:08 PM

Jyrki Lumme, on Feb 13 2005, 04:23 PM, said:

:lol:   :lol:

"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Nomar doing steroids at 31 Flavors last night."  Run with it!
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Silva is the old Big Show skit come to life: Don't check it, just print it.

:lol:
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 05:38 PM

If anyone doesn't think Jesus from the Big Lebowski is one fo the funniest characters of all time need only glance at this image below to change their mind.

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Btw, Hi Steve Silva!
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 05:56 PM

Ozzy, on Feb 13 2005, 05:07 PM, said:

This Chris Snow guy (is it a guy? :blink: ) looks pretty promising as the Globe's new baseball beat writer.  If Solomon pans out on football the Globe could be well along the rebuilding trail. 

I loved in Jackie Mac's Varitek piece how Tek goes out of his way to rip Buck and McCarver.  :lol:
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Link? I mean, Quote?
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 07:10 PM

Miserable Fellow, on Feb 13 2005, 09:56 PM, said:

Link?  I mean, Quote?
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I dont know how to link. Point and click is the sum total of my computer knowledge. Just ask Tiki. :D
It was something along the lines of "Buck and McCarver were 100% sure we threw at ARod and we were 100% sure we didnt."
Wow, we went from record posting to nothing for over an hour. Talk about the off season. :o

This post has been edited by Ozzy: 13 February 2005 - 07:11 PM

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Posted 13 February 2005 - 07:13 PM

http://p086.ezboard....cID=14976.topic

Tony Maz just got a bomb dropped on him on SoSH.

What an embarrassment.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 07:23 PM

Barry Larkin retires.

One classy player.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 07:28 PM

941827, on Feb 13 2005, 07:13 PM, said:

http://p086.ezboard....cID=14976.topic

Tony Maz just got a bomb dropped on him on SoSH.

What an embarrassment.
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I was just coming in to see if anybody referenced that. Nice move by that SoSHer.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 07:30 PM

941827, on Feb 13 2005, 07:13 PM, said:

http://p086.ezboard....cID=14976.topic

Tony Maz just got a bomb dropped on him on SoSH.

What an embarrassment.
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:lol: :lol:

ouch
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 07:41 PM

Tony Maz shouldn't give two craps about what the geekboard says. He's right about 2004 in that the Sox rotation in that they were fortuate that they had a very healthy season because it lacked depth in the minors. For 2005, they signed some guys with a history of injury problems. Some SOSHer takes exception to that? Sheesh. Dorky, insufferable, geeky Red Sox fans. If they were football fans, they'd be Eagles fans.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 07:47 PM

Len, on Feb 13 2005, 05:41 PM, said:

Tony Maz shouldn't give two craps about what the geekboard says.  He's right about 2004 in that the Sox rotation in that they were fortuate that they had a very healthy season because it lacked depth in the minors.  For 2005, they signed some guys with a history of injury problems.  Some SOSHer takes exception to that?  Sheesh.  Dorky, insufferable, geeky Red Sox fans.  If they were football fans, they'd be Eagles fans.
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Jesus God read the thread. It's clear Maz isn't informed about prospects being hurt and where they play, yet he is the BEAT reporter for the Herald.

That article was an embarrassment .
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 07:47 PM

Steve Young:

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Drew Brees needs to make a statement in this game.


You gotta be kidding Steve. This isn't a real game and they don't play defense in this game. It's not as if some GM is going to fall in love with any player as the result of how they do in a freaking Pro Bowl.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 07:53 PM

NDChicago, on Feb 13 2005, 07:47 PM, said:

Jesus God read the thread. It's clear Maz isn't informed about prospects being hurt and where they play, yet he is the BEAT reporter for the Herald.

That  article was an embarrassment .
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Big F'n deal that he doesn't know the status of Chris Smith. What a crime against the geeks!!!! The rest of the article is fine. Oh yeah, another geek is upset because he wants BH Kim mentioned as a factor this year.

ND, how many freaking messageboards do you post on? Are you going for a record or do you just like pissing off Bills fans?
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 07:54 PM

Err... Sex & Sox :blink:
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:02 PM

Len, on Feb 13 2005, 05:53 PM, said:

Big F'n deal that he doesn't know the status of Chris Smith.  What a crime against the geeks!!!!  The rest of the article is fine.  Oh yeah, another geek is upset because he wants BH Kim mentioned as a factor this year.

ND, how many freaking messageboards do you post on?  Are you going for a record or do you just like pissing off Bills fans?
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It's much more than Chris Smith, but it seems your issues are more about SoSH based on your comments. The rest of the article isn't "fine", and you're uninformed if you think that.

I've posted twice on TBD in a month.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:03 PM

Felger's latest screwup is saying last week that "sources close to Troy Brown" says he refuses to play defense again next year.

Troy was quoted in the Globe the next day saying he has no idea where that came from, and he would never say anything like that.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:05 PM

NDChicago, on Feb 13 2005, 08:02 PM, said:

It's much more than Chris Smith,  but it seems your issues are more about SoSH based on your comments.  The rest of the article isn't "fine", and you're unimformed if you think that.

I've posted twice on TBD in a month.
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Yeah, some kid named Pond too. I saw that. It's (the criticism) overkill.

I went to the Bills site to see if they had news on the Bledsoe thing and they were all telling you to get lost. :lol:
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:07 PM

Capt Hindsight aka Peter May said today that if Perkins keeps playing like he does the other players will think he's a thug and not a basketball player.

Guess the Ole Capt like his centers to get pushed around underneath like his boy Blount.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:10 PM

Len, on Feb 13 2005, 06:05 PM, said:

Yeah, some kid named Pond too.  I saw that.  It's (the criticism) overkill. 

I went to the Bills site to see if they had news on the Bledsoe thing and they were all telling you to get lost.  :lol:
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TBD is a trainwreck but it was one of the first things I read when I came home from the Super Bowl party. I love the excuse making

Mazz is no Edes. Gordon would never wonder about Shoppach's future with the Red Sox or question why Bellhorn doesn't have any competition in Spring Training. As a matter of fact , I had a long conversation in Chicago with Edes at a Jimmy Fund fundraiser on Bellhorn and he was singing his praises.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:12 PM

Look what Len's reference to geeks did to the ads. :lol:
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:13 PM

Donovan McNabb picked off again. Is he still dizzy??
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:13 PM

McNabb with a pick in the redzone, surprise surprise.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:14 PM

ND, I understand your point. But for the most part, the criticism is petty. On a scale of 1 to 10 where Felger deserves about a 9.5 for his BS lately, the Tony Maz article rates less than half of that.

Some of the guys at TBD know their stuff. Their board is better than any Patriots board out there (with the exception of Patriots talk here, of course ;) ).
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:24 PM

Jyrki Lumme, on Feb 13 2005, 04:23 PM, said:

"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Nomar doing steroids at 31 Flavors last night."  Run with it!
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Comments, complaints and suggestions can be sent to hanafin@boston.com
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:32 PM

If you want to call out a writer for a bigger mistake today, look no further than this BS from Bill Burt.

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The Patriots will go down as the big winners in the trading of Bledsoe to the Bills. New England received a 2004 first-round pick, selecting defensive lineman Vince Wilfork, a key performer for the Patriots during their recent Super Bowl run.


The Bledsoe pick wound up being Ty Warren and not Wilfork. The Pats moved up one spot from the Buffalo pick in changing spots with the Bears. But THAT is lazy work by Burt (much more so than the Tony Maz stuff).
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:33 PM

Len, that column by Massarotti is disgusting. It's one thing to have a goof but it reads like he wrote that on the back of a cocktail napkin or something.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:42 PM

Refresh my memory but Wilfork was Baltimore's pick for getting Boeller the year before. In 2003 New England had Buffalo's pick at 14 and their own at 19. They moved up 1 to get Warren at 13 and traded the 19 pick to Baltimore for their 1st in 2004 plus a 4th which became Wilfork.

The Pats probably don't get Wilfork without the 1st rounder for Bledsoe because they'd be trying to move up from 19 in 2003 instead of having the second pick to make a deal with and get the additional 1st rounder in 2004.
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